I got bored at work, so....

[jetmex]

...here's some more for you to chew on:

1. What does AEG (as in the airplane manufacturer) stand for?

2. Name as many aircraft, experimental or otherwise, that were built using major components (wings, tails, etc) from completely different airplanes.

3. Name the company (-ies) that still produce radial aircraft engines.

4. Name as many turboprop aircraft as you can that have seen combat with the US military.

5. Where are Mooneys built?

6. What are IFE systems used for?

7. Name as many aircraft as you can that were equipped with downward firing ejection seats.

8. Name all the aircraft types currently normally assigned to the US Presidential Flight (all services).

9. Name as many three-engine airliners as you can that actually saw service on scheduled routes.

10. What does EFIS stand for?

Bonus--name the executive jet that saw combat service in Vietnam that had the provision to install landing gear lock pins in flight.

[Galvin]

(Most of this is from memory because I don't have much time and because I wanted to leave some for the rest of you.)

1. What does AEG (as in the airplane manufacturer) stand for?

Allgemeine Electrische Gesellschaft or, roughly, General Electric Company.

2. Name as many aircraft, experimental or otherwise, that were built using major components (wings, tails, etc) from completely different airplanes.

Fisher P-75 Eagle (1st one had SBD rear fuselge and empennage, P-40 outer wing panels, Corsair landing gear), the whole Lockheed Q-star series (Schweizer 2-32 glider components), X-29, some VTOL testbeds (X-14 used a T-34 fuselage, another used a Cessna wing and tail, a third was mostly an A-4 Skyhawk)

3. Name the company (-ies) that still produce radial aircraft engines.

PZL (Pezetel) in Poland and Vedeneyev in Russia.

4. Name as many turboprop aircraft as you can that have seen combat with the US military.

C-130, P-3, C-133, Helio Super Stallion, Pilatus Porter (Air America), (DeHavilland Buffalo?), Volpar and PAC Twin Beech Conversions, T-34C (combat?), just about all helicopters from Vietnam on, Predator drone (Turboprop version), DASH torpedo carrying anti-sub drone.

5. Where are Mooneys built?

The 231 I used to fly for the law firm was built in Kerrville, Texas.

6. What are IFE systems used for?

In Flight Entertainment.

7. Name as many aircraft as you can that were equipped with downward firing ejection seats.

F-104A, B-52, F-3D Skyknight (Bailout chute, not a seat), T-39 had a floor hatch for bailout. (Vultee XP-54?)

8. Name all the aircraft types currently normally assigned to the US Presidential Flight (all services).

Air Force One=2 VC-25B (Heavily modified Boeing 747-200 ), Navy One =(and the only one) that infamous S-3B Viking COD, Army One=Up til 1976, when all helicopter duties were given to the USMC, any army helicopter the president was in. Marine One=Any one of 19 H-3 or UH-60 helicopters operated by the USMC squadron tasked with carrying the president.

9. Name as many three-engine airliners as you can that actually saw service on scheduled routes.

Trident, Yak-40, Tu-154, Boeing 727, Fokker Trimotor F.7 3M, Ford Trimotor, Ju-52 3M, Savioia Marchetti SM-79 airliner, and some French airliner that escapes me for the moment.

10. What does EFIS stand for?

Electronic Flight instrument System (Glass Cockpit)

Bonus--name the executive jet that saw combat service in Vietnam that had the provision to install landing gear lock pins in flight.

T-39 Sabreliner

[Britbrat]

Wow, turn around twice & Galvin grabs most of it.

Just to critique his answer. The De Havilland Buffalo did not see service with the USAF (the DH Cariboo did, but it had round engines).

The C-135 family also has a floor escape hatch, located forward on the port side.

I don't think that the T-34C has seen combat with US forces.

[Wayne]

#4 also:

P-3 Orion,
E-2 Hawkeye,
OV-1 Mohawk,
OV-10 Bronco

[Wayne]

#2
Volmar amphibian
DC-2-1/2
P-40
Guppy, Super Guppy, Pregnant Guppy, Carvair
B-18 Bolo
An225
B720
Boeing stratoliner
Boeing Stratocruiser
B 707
Canadair CP-107 Argus
EA-6B

[Wagon1]

Did the P-3 ever see combat (other than in Red Storm Rising)?

[Wayne]

Taking out a chinese mig sounds like combat to me

[jetmex]

Once again, here we go:

Galvin got most of these, but....

1. That is not the name I came up with, let's see if anyone else can find it.

2. Wayne, not exactly what I was looking for, Galvin had the right idea here.

7. I don't think a hatch in the floor qualifies as an ejection seat! ;D

8. The question pertained to aircraft normally assigned to the Presidential Flight, not aircraft the Prez might use out of convenience. The VC-25 is one of them, there are several smaller aircraft as well as the mentioned helicopters. BTW--Marine One is about to be replaced by what foreign machine?

Bonus--there was another.....

[Britbrat]

Marine One will soon be an EH-101.

#2 Lockheed Have Blue stealth prototype, Canadair C-4 & C-5 (DC-6 fuse & DC-4 wings), Lockheed 9 Orion

#9 Foker F.XVIII, Foker F.XX, De Havilland DH.66, Couzinet Arc-en-Ciel, CANT Z.506A, Spartan Cruiser A-24, Short S.8 Calcutta, Savoia Marchetti SM.75 Marsupiale

[Galvin]

The C-135 family also has a floor escape hatch, located forward on the port side.

The C-135s and 707s DID have a hatch in the flight deck floor on the port side but it was not intended for use as a bailout exit. It was the entryway to the lower 41 compartment, an area in which was located the various equipment and radio racks as well as the Johnson bar and its socket on the forward gear leg, used for prying the nose gear down and locked in an emergency.

So if you wanted to go down there to re-rack a radio or play with the nose gear, there was a means of getting there inflight but bailing out was not an option. I believe some aircraft also had an external access through the nosewheel well to the lower 41 compartment (named for the particular Boeing production breakdown of the aircraft into various numbered segments.) but bailing out through it doesn't sound practical if even possible.

Interestingly, C-135s had the flight engineer station on the port side of the flight deck, on the exact opposite side that their civilian 707 and 720 cousins had theirs. The military version required moving the engineers seat to access the hatch but not so in the civvie airplanes because the engineer's position was on the right (starboard) side of the flight deck. That distiction became moot at some point during the service life of the C-135 when those surviving were modified to remove the engineer's panel and position entirely, the overhead and other panels having the required instruments added to them (as was the pilots' workload in an emergency, which was added to considerably due to the elimination of the engineer). I seem to recal that later C-135s now have a crew entrance door on the forward lower left side of the airplane. I have never been in one so I can't say how to get to it from inside or if it is jettisonable for bailout.

The 727s and 737s do not have the lower 41 (or 46 in their case) hatch even though they use the same cockpit and most of the same panels.

[Galvin]

1. Some sources say Allgemeine Elektrizitäts Gesellschaft.

Bonus: Lockheed L-1329 Jetstar/C-140.

[Britbrat]

The C-135 had an escape hatch down low on the portside cabin wall (at floor level) not far aft of the cockpit bulkhead. I have seen it with my own eyeballs.

[Wayne]

not exactly what I was looking for,

awwww... not fair changin' the rules half way through.....

[Galvin]

The C-135 had an escape hatch down low on the portside cabin wall (at floor level) not far aft of the cockpit bulkhead. I have seen it with my own eyeballs.

I don't doubt that you are right because I rmember seeing a video of a C-135R landing with the nose wheel up and the entire crew exiting through a door on the left side of the airplane that caught my attention because it was lower on the side of the airplane than the standard door on the 707 and early C-135. That was the door I alluded to previously. I wonder if it is only on the R version or if it a retrofit on the E versions modified from As as well.www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/kc-135r-990591c-s.jpg

[Wagon1]

#2. How 'bout the Northrop A-20? Mostly F-5, but from a lot of what I read a totally new beast.

[Galvin]

I think Jaime was looking for things that were sort of cobbled together to make a completely different airplane, more like the IAR-80 and 81 fighters which were a Rumanian low wing monoplane fighter design but used the entire aft fuselage and tail of the PZL P-24 parasol winged fighter that IAR had been building under license to speed up the process of getting it into production.

The Maule series of short field light planes started out as the basic Piper Pacer/Tri-Pacer design and were given so many new parts (like the wings and tail) that the result was unrecognizable.

The "Arctic Tern" was the old L-6 or Interstate Cadet with a lot of mods.

The "Horten Wingless" started out as a Cessna UC-78 and was totally unrecognizable as such. (And totally unflyable too.)

And the Sud Est "Caravelle" jet airliner was built with the entire nose section of the De Havilland "Comet" (built under license) to save time in bringing it into production.

There were innumerable "specials" built back in the twenties using a JN-4 "Jenny" or a Standard as a basis.

Paul Poberezny (founder of the EAA) for years flew his "Pober Sport" named "Little Audrey" for his wife. It had cut down Luscombe wings and used the original fuselage tubing structure of Benny Howard's racer "Pete" but was not recognizable as such. Bill Turner of Repeat Aircraft obtained the airplane from Poberezny some years ago and, using the original parts as much as possible built from it....
Benny Howard's "Pete"!

(Repete? Sorry...)

It seems he had actually once climbed uninvited into the cockpit of the original "Pete" as a teenage kid when it was parked on the flight line at the Los Angeles Air Races back in the thirties. He was evicted rather roughly from it by Benny Howard himself. His father was a Navy officer/ pilot and it was foreordained that he would follow in his footsteps. He himself later became a PBY pilot in the pacific. He never forgot that little racer however and, some fifty years later, he owned it.

I also watched Jim Dewey (Former chief of the FAA office in Van Nuys and father of Mike Dewey the aerobatic pilot) take an old Stearman airframe and turn it into a near perfect replica of a Boeing F4B back in the 70s. It wasn't the one with the fabric fuselage either but the F4B-4 with the aluminum monocoque fuselage.

He was also the one who twigged me to the fact that the drawings for most aircraft ever built that were issued a type certificate are on microfilm and on file at the FSDO nearest where the airplane was manufactured. At least they were at that time. Using microfilmed plans blown up to full size he built a beautiful Ryan STA (that ended up being burned up when the San Diego air museum in Balboa Park was torched by a homeless psycho) and an equally beautiful Fairchild 22 Parasol from literally nothing. I think the Fairchild started out as an original cowling nose bowl, an original wheel fairing, and a four cylinder Menasco "Pirate" engine.

Jim was also kind of famous at Van Nuys for commuting the 25 miles to work (from Santa Paula airport to Van Nuys) in "Little Mike", one of the original Goodyear racers that was originally raced as "Ginny". Ain't too many FAA guys like him left, if any.

[jetmex]

"Cobbled together", that's the words I was looking for!!

We had some MD-80s that were like that......

BTW, Dave, your second answer for AEG was the one I had, more or less the same meaning.

The C-140 Jetstar was also the bizjet I was looking for. My boss at work was a crew chief on that airplane in Vietnam (they did all the navaid checks) and later was assigned to the Presidential Flight at Andrews AFB on the same jet. He recounts the first thing you learned while installing gear pins in flight was to take the streamers off, this coming after said streamer had beaten the crap out of his arm. The second thing learned was to tie the pin to something on the airplane, so when you dropped the pin while the streamer was flogging you, you didn't lose it overboard.

Amazing, the things you learn in this business.....

[Elwyn]

#3 Isn't there a U S company currently producing an R-2800(CC's in this case and not CI's)

[exrafbod]

5. You got it all wrong Jaime.... Mooneys...they ain't built they's jus cloned from some Korean guy call Moon with a big religious and idealogical hangup. Do I win?