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Post by MikeBogh on Nov 13, 2004 20:06:30 GMT -7
What is it and who was the pilot, please. Thanks, Mike
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Post by Galvin on Nov 13, 2004 20:19:40 GMT -7
The new Chrysler Le Baron.
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Post by MikeBogh on Nov 13, 2004 23:54:04 GMT -7
Looks like I finally got you guys....and YOU, Galvin...I'm feeling pretty good right about now.. ;D
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Post by jetmex on Nov 14, 2004 6:02:21 GMT -7
It's a prop, shot on the deck of the USS Lincoln for a movie about technology gone bad. It's called "Stealth", the airplane is supposedly the "FA-37". A couple or really good looks at the pics will confirm it's a fake, (you'll notice one wing is extended but where's the other one?) but pictures of the model had some aviation freaks really buzzing for a while! If you look really closely at the rear quarter shot of the airplane on the cat, you'll see the tiedown chains still securely attached to the landing gear! The pilot is "Lt. Kara Wade", played by actress Jessica Biel. americanantigravity.com/stealthmovie.shtml
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Post by MikeBogh on Nov 14, 2004 10:28:42 GMT -7
Thank you Jamie.....truth is I didn't know what it was...
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Post by Britbrat on Nov 14, 2004 13:58:13 GMT -7
How come? Every body else knows about it (except Galvin).
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Post by Galvin on Nov 14, 2004 19:08:18 GMT -7
I have enough trouble with the real ones to keep track of the fakes too.
I was sure it was a movie prop. Many of my friends used to make their living making just such mockups but I have been out of that loop since 1997 and have never heard of this one.
I was also not sure whether the wing folds out from the front or the rear and therefore whether the moveable surfaces on the folded wing are leading edge devices or trailing edge devices. I did note the missing wing also and that is what led me to conclude it was a movie prop.
But I did recently happen to call a friend who told me he and another friend of mine are working on a large movie mockup of an airplane at this time. The movie will be a remake of a minor classic in which the airplane figures significantly.
Since everyone but me (and Mike) knew what this one was then I guess you should all know what the airplane is that my friends are making. ;D
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Post by MikeBogh on Nov 14, 2004 19:26:13 GMT -7
Flight of the Phoenix?
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Post by Galvin on Nov 15, 2004 0:13:06 GMT -7
Right. That it is. My friend Tad Kryzanowski got a contract to do a replica of the airplane and he has subcontracted the building of it to my friend Ralph Wise out at the Mojave Airport. The original used an old C-82 Flying Boxcar as the basis for the airplane the crew builds but the new version will use the C-119. They said they were building parts out of fibreglas so I don't know how much, if any, of the movie replica aircraft will use real parts.
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Post by JimCasey on Nov 15, 2004 16:43:01 GMT -7
I hope the special effects are good in the movie. I remember in "The Battle of Britain" all the models seemed to be flying at about 15 degrees to the actual flight path.
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Post by Grnbrt on Nov 18, 2004 22:17:09 GMT -7
Ah Galvin isn't the C-119 the flying boxcar?? We jumped out of them at Benning and that's what they were called. Damn things had parts falling off of them and that's why I was glad we had those chutes!
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Post by Britbrat on Nov 19, 2004 13:17:30 GMT -7
If my memory is correct (no guarantee there), the C-82 was the Fairchild Packet, or Pack-Plane, or some such name. The C-119 was/is indeed the flying boxcar (& a noisy brute to fly in).
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Post by Galvin on Nov 20, 2004 23:10:20 GMT -7
Although both the C-82 and C-119 were universally called "Flying Boxcars", the C-82 was officially the "Packet" and the dollar nineteen was officially the "Flying Boxcar". Yes, they did use the C-119s for parachute training and even used them operationally earlier in the Vietnam war. Their first use was in the Korean war and then in "Indo-China" (for which read Vietnam) to support the French at Dien Bien Phu in 1954.
The C-119s used there were USAF C-119s with hastily applied French markings (and a few may still have been in U.S. markings due to the extreme need) but flown by USAF crews. They were used to drop supplies into Dien Bien Phu while under intense fire in an unsuccessful attempt to keep the fort from being overrun. There was at least one shot down at that time and its crew therefore qualifies as the very first of the over 58,000 U.S. personnel lost in the Vietnam war.
The "Pack Plane" was an experimental development of the C-119 in which the fuselage was modified to make the lower half detachable. The upper portion with the cockpit and controls was permanently attached to the rest of the airframe but the lower half was a removable cargo pod designed so that preloaded cargo loads could be attached and detached more quickly, much in the way 40' containers are shifted around between rail, trucks, and ships these days.
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Post by Britbrat on Nov 21, 2004 8:05:26 GMT -7
Hey, the memory cells are still (mostly?) connected! ;D I also vaguely remember the Pack-Plane as being C-82 derived, rather than C-119. Can you verify, or positively refute that one Galvin? Never mind Galvin -- I found it myself -- The Fairchild XC-120 Pack-Plane was derived from the C-119B & used many C-119B components -- only one was built.
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