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Post by MrRepublican on Aug 26, 2004 4:14:03 GMT -7
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Post by jim on Aug 26, 2004 9:54:26 GMT -7
Can you find a similar one for President Bush? it would be interesting to compare. I notice that Kerry worked summer jobs. That is true of a lot of the kids of the smarter better-off parents.
Jim
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Post by MrRepublican on Aug 26, 2004 11:07:01 GMT -7
I guess I am not smart enough or well-off enough to ascertain your point.
"...smarter better-off parents. "
Your point is.....?
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Post by jim on Aug 26, 2004 12:58:30 GMT -7
In some families there is no economic need for the children to have jobs. However, If the parents are smart they will encourage the kids to have jobs so the kids will have the benefits of the work experience. I wonder if Paris Hilton ever had a job.
Jim
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Post by MrRepublican on Aug 26, 2004 14:18:32 GMT -7
I am not so sure that makes her parents necessarily smarter than those whose kids have jobs growing up.
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Post by downunder on Aug 28, 2004 20:45:17 GMT -7
Jim's point is that even though a student (Kerry) may belong to a wealthy family, smart (wise actually, there's a difference) parents would have him make his own way by working summer jobs. He would then necessarily learn first hand how the less wealthy people make a living, a life experience he might not ever get at any other time. It's then of course up to him how he uses this knowledge in later life. Jim wants to know if GWB was ever given this opportunity through wise parents or if he was coddled and isolated from the "common" people all his life. |
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Post by MrRepublican on Aug 29, 2004 0:44:22 GMT -7
Jim wants to know if GWB was ever given this opportunity through wise parents or if he was coddled and isolated from the "common" people all his life. Really? Thank you downunder for your translation. I don't know if GWB was ever given the opportunity to not be coddled and isolated from the "common people" all his life by his parents. It seems to me GWB is an adult and interacts with common people all the time as I am pretty common and have interacted with him several times. So I suppose the answer to your question (or Jim's) is yes, however I do not think he had to have his parents permission to interact with me. So by acting without their permission, he may have been a very disobedient president for having done so. That said, I do not think a good spanking would be appropriate under these circumstances as the man is in his 50s and could probably beat his daddy in an arm wrestling contest with the UN. I guess the same could be said for GWB's prosecution of the war on terror as far as the UN is concerned because by acting without being given the opportunty for the UN's unanimous approval (thanks to France), the UN perceives GWB to be a very disobedient president. Here's to disobedience...cheers  |
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Post by Galvin on Aug 29, 2004 1:28:04 GMT -7
I didn't have any problem in figuring out what Jim meant. It is sometimes the case that well-off and wise parents have the populist notion that they should start their kids at the bottom of the familly business or insist that they get work experience somewhere else at the entry level, both to experience first hand what real work is like and to learn a little humility and respect when dealing with their fellow human beings.
Though expounded on at length, there was no question asked about GWB being an adult nor of his being unable to "interact". He's a freaking politician for crying out loud, he "interacts" for a living.
The question was asked as whether his parents had ever either required or encouraged him to take the kind of jobs the average person does in order to get first hand experience in working for a living even though the family wealth doesn't require that one do so. What was so difficult about figuring that out?
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Post by downunder on Aug 29, 2004 7:26:41 GMT -7
Really? Thank you downunder for your translation. You're welcome Mark. However I see by the remainder of your reply you still don't fully understand what Jim was saying so I'll try to help you a little more. Jim was referring to Kerry in his formative years learning to be in touch with the "common" man whereas you were referring to GWB as he is now. However, you did infer that he needs his parent's permission still and that he gets spanked if he disobeys so possibly he's still in his formative years. Be that as it may, the fact remains that so far you've avoided giving a similar link to GWB as you did for Kerry in your "accidental" surfing... As for the UN viewing him as a disobedient president, I think more rightly they viewed him as being a very naughty boy for invading another country much as they viewed Saddam Whosucks as a naughty boy when he invaded Kuwait. |
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Post by MrRepublican on Aug 29, 2004 8:39:29 GMT -7
As for the UN viewing him as a disobedient president, I think more rightly they viewed him as being a very naughty boy for invading another country much as they viewed Saddam Whosucks as a naughty boy when he invaded Kuwait. I see. So the massacred hundreds of thousands of civilians bulldozed under near Mosul by the Husseins and their mignons, not to mention the tens of thousands executed (some hung up and dismembered) by Saddam Hussein's shock troops after taking over Kuwait City for a few months, make the US's president Saddam Hussein's equal in evil. Hitler must have been a very naughty boy too. Where was the UN then? |
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Post by JohnC on Aug 29, 2004 8:48:31 GMT -7
I don't know about GW, but then, since I doubt I'll ever be face-to -face with him, I really don't care.
As for kerry, as far as I'm concerned, if he was sent to work with the "common man" so he could learn to deal with them in the future, it was a complete failure!
I have yet to see anything other than abject condesention from John Kerry when "interacting" with anyone he so obviously considers to be his inferiors.
I'd say GW is probably more human, but not really as cognizant of the "average" American's actual lifestyle as he could/should be. JohnC
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Post by Ricfly52 on Aug 29, 2004 17:24:51 GMT -7
This may be the silliest example, but I must share it.
I have a picture of George W. Bush, and a picture of John Kerry. Both are portrait type pictures. In John kerry's picture I see hands that have long slender skinny fingers. Not the fingers of a working man.
George W. Bush, has a picture with big ears ( like my Dad), and hands just like my Dad. Big thick fingers, hands with veins sticking out. Yes this som-a-bi*@h has worked hard somewhere.
Kerry, he ain't worked a day is his life! He can kiss my a$$
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Post by jim on Aug 29, 2004 19:28:58 GMT -7
Well, I have long, skinny slender fingers, and I have dug more postholes in flintrock than most folks. So there is one counter example for you. (When I went off to the university, my party trick was to stub a cigarette out in my calloused palm. Somehow the ladies were not that impressed :  Jim |
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Post by stetto on Aug 29, 2004 19:44:26 GMT -7
Well hey cool Jim! We have something in common....Back in high school I had gone whole summers without wearing shoes. Hence a very thick layer of callous grew on the soles of my feet. I made a few bucks my senior year betting underclassmen that I could walk over five feet of broken glass without bleeding (never bled once!!)...Never got me the girl either, which is what we have in common...  |
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