Ruminating on judging stunt

[retread]

The other day, I had occasion to judge a stunt contest (no details to protect the guilty ;D). I judged with judge A, a person whose knowledge and expertise I hold in very high regard. We judged a warm-up flight by saying how we would score each maneuver and making an occasional comment. When the flight was over, I remarked that my scores ran about 2 points higher than his, and thus my total score would be about 30 points higher than his. Judge A was OK with this.

After the contest was over, talked with one of the contestants. We looked at his score sheets. On each of his two flights I had scored him 32 points higher than judge A. So let us say I am scoring consistently but am scoring higher than a more qualified judge.

Judge A made a cogent comment to the effect that the flier should be able to look at his score sheet and see which maneuvers the judge saw as well flown and which the judge saw as less well flown.

Jim

[jehold66203]

I agree with judge A in that the score should reflect the individual maneuver as it goes along. If I fly a maneuver that deserves a 10 I expect to see a ten not a 20+. It is also interesting to compare scores with another competitor that you practice with and see the differences. I know I look like a clown in them baggy jeans with shirt tail hanging out, but, why should that effect my score. Also why should a particular design score lower even if eveyone on the outside thought it was best flight of the day. But to tell the truth I beat myself more than the competitors beat me. All I try to do is better my score each time. Later, DOC Holliday

[ferocious]

Being able to keep a consistent 30 pt average between two judges is pretty good.

Take the next step and look and see if both of you went up and down together, from maneuver to maneuver. If you gave the loops 28 and inverted 35, you'd expect to see the other judge also going up a significant number of points on the inverted.

What is really useless is when the judges go opposite direction on maneuvers, cancelling each other out. What is the contestant supposed to think when he does dynamite inside loops and gets 24, 28, so-so inverted 25,27, and good outsides for 22,28?

[retread]

The contestant should think his flying has been poorly judged. My flying been judged like this. The interesting thing is that the same judges have judged my flying, in my opinion, very well on other occasions. the human factor, I suppose.

Jim

[downunder]

It's especially irritating when one judge's scores go up (compared to the other judges) when his friend is flying and then go down when I'm flying. That cost me a state championship