New guy here with questions

[Steve]

Hi guys Hope you don't mind me coming in here and asking all kinds of questions.

My name is Steve. I'm 52 years old and going through my 52nd childhood....lol

I flew control line models as a kid, nothing serious I had a Ringmaster and several combat wings with Mccoy 35's


Well, I have a bug to get back into flying and would like to ask for advice.

I want to build a go fast stunt plane, I've been looking at my childhood dream plane that being the Nobler, I see now that Top Flight has a ARF kit.


If you were going to build an intermediate Plane what would it be and what engine would you use.


Thanks very much for any responses.

Regards

Steve

[Garf]

First, there is no such thing as a "go fast" stunt plane. The closest thing that comes to mind is the Flite Streak. Do you have any engines left over from earlier times? There are several ARF stunt models, and both fast and slow combat models available, not just the Nobler. Look up Brodak Mfg. Even Sig is about to bring an ARF out.

[MrClean]

Definately get the Flight Streak and an OS 25 la. It's a whole bunch of fun. There are some Brodak planes that would be good too with a little construction. But if you are going for the Nobler, get this first. I've heard of folks flying the Nobler with the 25 so you might be able to use the both of them. Currently I have a Fox 35 in mine and it seems to fly like it was made for that much horsepower. I just don't have a Johnson to stick in it. Oh the offerings in CL are just getting better and better.

[GCB]

Steve,

If you would prefer building from a kit or from plans, both the Flite Streak and the Nobler are available as kits or plans from Brodak. These are created from George Aldrich's plans and notes, and are constructed as he did them, without manufacturing changes (as Top Flite did). George reviewed them for accuracy.

By all means, the ARFs are well built (from what I've read) and should serve you well.

Some people prefer the LA .40 in the Nobler, but the LA .25 would be more equivalent to the Fox .35 in power.

George

[jehold66203]

If you are getting back into it. Find a local group to fly with or start one. You might get the Brodak catalog as it is full of info on control line flying. It also has all the kits and accessories listed. Hope you hung onto the engines of your youth as you might or could use them again. Also remember there is not such thing as a dumb question. Keep us posted, DOC Holliday

[exrafbod]

Welcome back to 'the fold'. Hope you don't start to regret the time you spent 'away' like most of us did/do.

You may want to peruse my comments of the TF Nosebelessor in the topic "Progress at Last" as I have had a really firsthand and truly disagreeable time with mine before I got it finished. I published my observations on that 'ARF' further down the list.

Be very careful what you consider as your final choice in the matter then before you buy go look at other ARF Nobler offerings if you truly want one of those. Caveat emptor. The military taught me that time spent in reconnaissance is never wasted.

Aim for about 5.2 second lap times though and that way you will be assured of 'doing it right' and not breaking speed records.

[Steve]

Thanks for the replies guys, I took to heart allot of the comments made here. I'm meeting with a district ten club Member on Sunday.

I hope to narrow down my Kit choice by then, I'm thinking that maybe I want to get into a 60 size ship such as the Brodak strega 60.

Anyway if you don't mind I'll keep you posted as to where I'm heading and where I end up, hopefully with more recon I'll find the right answer.

Stay tuned.

[pnevai]

Whoa, hold yer horses! YIKES A STREGA? As the first plane back in? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Even Windy Urtinowski the designer of that airplane admitted that it was a handful to fly. It can do the pattern like no tommorow but it was a plane that had to be flown every second. I saw Windy belly the origional strega in at FMP after he lost track of how low his bottoms were getting.

MY suggestion is to start off with something like the Brodak profile cardinal, A capable airplane without the huge time investment.

[Kiwi]

Garf said:

First, there is no such thing as a "go fast" stunt plane. The closest thing that comes to mind is the Flite Streak. Do you have any engines left over from earlier times? There are several ARF stunt models, and both fast and slow combat models available, not just the Nobler. Look up Brodak Mfg. Even Sig is about to bring an ARF out.

Seems to me I may have some age on Phil -- the earliest "stunt" that I can remember predated modern slow aerobatics. A dMeco "Stuntwagon 60" with a rip-snorting Super Cyclone, drop-off gear, and speeds above 75 mph was the right way before Aldrich and Palmer slowed things down a lot.

Right now, the intermediate model that in my opinion offers the best compromise for size, easy building, flying capability, etc. is still a SIG Twister with a modern 25/28 engine attached. When Top Flite's update of the "Tutor" becomes readily available, I may suggest it then. BUT, to get started quickly, do a web search for discussions of the TF Streak ARF, and makes notes or print the web pages about repairing the various mistakes made assembing it (unbushed bellcrank, weak leadouts, insufficient tip weight, bad advice for CG, and for assorted "offset" errors).

The Streak is either a Combat Trainer, or a fast sport model with 25's-35's. Use a (modern) 15-20 size engine, and it's a Basic Aerobatics Practice model. (Basic, not Intermediate, like a BT-9, not a T-6).