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Post by MarkWyco on Jan 22, 2005 22:21:28 GMT -7
While I generally like and enjoy Dumas kits, I would like to know what farging idiot decided to save money by printing the plans on both sides of the same sheet of paper!!! I'm framing up the fuselage when the instruction indicate to attach a strip between two formers. The problem is that the drawing that shows exactly how this should go is on the back side of the sheet that I have taped down with the keel frame laid out. . . . I figured it out, but still.
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Post by fox4ever on Jan 23, 2005 16:16:18 GMT -7
Ya gotta figure this was a well educated engineer that set this up. Its thier job to make things difficult for the consumer. Plus he/she don't build models. Probably the same guy/gal that designed the twin cam Harley B engine with the oil filter mounted is such a lousy place. And they get paid good to make us get p/od. Lee TGD ;D
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Post by jehold66203 on Mar 29, 2005 6:55:32 GMT -7
Yep, it had to be one of them college idiots as I like to call them. I even say it to their face. They only know what is in the book, not what common sense and experience will tell you. Now don't gang up on me all you college people, as I know some that do have common sense. Later, DOC Holliday
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Post by Britbrat on Mar 29, 2005 11:21:06 GMT -7
You should be more polite to "college people" , virtually everyone works for them, & even if you don't, your life is literally in their hands. Try practicing with comic books for a while, you'll soon develop your thinking skills ;D
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Post by Britbrat on Mar 30, 2005 8:02:44 GMT -7
What? No response? C'mon, lets have at it fellas.
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Post by fox4ever on May 1, 2005 18:31:16 GMT -7
Responses, hmm, Not being a college person, I guess that could be tuff. How bout for starters......"being well educated doesn't promote common sense". Could be thats what Doc and I meant ;D Lee TGD
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Post by Britbrat on May 3, 2005 10:55:24 GMT -7
No argument there, but it doesn't mean lack of common sense either.
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Post by fox4ever on May 3, 2005 17:18:08 GMT -7
Gotta agree that in all cases there is not a lack of common sense. But then, in many of the simplest situations book learnin jus don't cut it. I had worked around engineers for years, and I was amazed at some of the things they can't grasp. Anyway,,plans on both sides of a sheet..rest my case. By the way,, I do feel that education is a great thing, wish I had more long ago so I could have been retired long ago and out flying now. Lee TGD
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Post by Britbrat on May 4, 2005 6:19:40 GMT -7
I must admit that plans on both sides of a sheet is daft, but it doesn't mean that an enginerer did it. Could have been some tightwad gorp trying to save paper.
I have never seen a set of engineering blueprints produced on both sides of the same sheet. Engineers are actaully taught to be practical thinkers (as opposed to phsicists), since engineers have to turn concepts into real things.
I admit that successful educational achievement, per se, doesn't guarantee practicallity, but it does guarantee exposure to, understanding, and assimilation of knowledge. It does not necessarily guarantee superiour intelligence, but it sure points in that direction.
On the other hand, lack of education doesn't indicate lack of intelligence, just lack of academic achievement. It also doesn't indicate superiour practicallity. Lack of schollastic qualification may be a driver, however, for attainment of practicallity by gifted individuals, as a strategy for offsetting reduced opportunity.
In my personal experience, bright people are practical thinkers, regardless of educational attainment.
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Post by Patch on May 4, 2005 15:22:18 GMT -7
hey!! me is college educated. And one day I just might act like it . ;D As an equipment specialist, I work with a lot of engineers and designers. There aren't as many practical ones out there as one might have thought I find that the best ones are the ones who come out on the floor and get in the equipment with us, and don't have an attitude that they know everything. There's even some that ask our advice when designing for new equipment We had one designer that would design tooling with .001" clearance. prints to the third decimal place are +/- .001 tolerance Fit good on autocad I guess....... In theory, everything works. In reality, only half of it does.
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Post by Britbrat on May 5, 2005 14:35:03 GMT -7
Damned brat -- I had a good argument going here & you side with the heathens. Son, I'm gonna smack your butt when I get my paws on ya.
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Post by fox4ever on May 5, 2005 20:41:38 GMT -7
Sorry Britbrat, See what lack of education does, I ran out of amunition prematurely. This ole dog, well, you know the rest. Lee TGD
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Post by RonaldFodge on May 18, 2005 12:30:50 GMT -7
::)Britbrat, kick his a## real good.Man this could have been aflamer.
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Post by Britbrat on May 18, 2005 13:52:08 GMT -7
--- seems to have fizzled! It's nice to chew on someones leg but not when he just lays there & bleeds Besides, it is really a topic for the skeeters -- we'd get chomped for ungentlemanly conduct in a civilized forum like this.
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Post by jimbo on Jul 17, 2005 9:59:09 GMT -7
Being a Professor Emeritus (drum roll here!), I will quote my father, who went through the 5th grade. "If you don't use your head, you just make it hard on your ass."
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Post by Britbrat on Jul 17, 2005 14:24:32 GMT -7
If you're really dim you just get assphixiated ;D
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Post by JohnC on Aug 27, 2005 20:02:03 GMT -7
Here we refer to them as "Engineers". In the Military they're better known as "2nd Lieutenants". But there is hope for them... if they figure out how to make it to 1st Lieutenant, they're usually salvageable. JohnC
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Post by stetto on Aug 28, 2005 16:36:35 GMT -7
I'll take the life experience "street smarts" over ANY of the college boys' book learnin' anyday. I've spent the last twenty-some years learning firsthand how college teaches no sense whatsoever, other than that which the student brought to school with them...
...As a ferinstance; My wife has been working as an accountant in the "real world" for over ten years without a degree. She has been continually correcting the ineptitudes of CPAs for all that time...Now she's taking an associate's degree course at the local community college, for no other reason than to have the useless piece of paper that qualifies her to tell the "big boys" what idiots they are...
Eric
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Post by Britbrat on Sept 1, 2005 17:12:37 GMT -7
Well--- your wife's roll is clearly evolutionary. There are a few holes in the theory of how the world works, but they get corrected as new information pops up. Doesn't mean that you have to chuck the entire theory out. Us collij boyz has got it rite -- weir undaptible to defferent seenaireous.
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Post by stetto on Sept 4, 2005 12:44:27 GMT -7
Heh, Pat you forgot the "r" in revolutionary...
While living in Phoenix working as a paint contractor I found myself called to a number of jobs that had been butchered by the previous "painter". Come to find out that in almost all those cases the work had been done by laid off IBM, Xerox and Motorola engineers and technicians. Apparently the mentality is that ANYBODY can paint, which may be true as my 5 and 7 year olds demonstrate, but nobody's gonna pay for my kids' work either...Which in a lot of cases was much better than what I saw those college boys do...
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